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howto disable triple DES 168 on Windows

You are disabling some ciphers (e.g. DES 56/56, RC2 40/128, RC2 128/128, RC4 40/128, RC4 56/128, RC4 64/128, RC4 128/128) in order to harden your server OS. However you are unable to disable triple DES 168 and every vulnerability report still shows it as active.

You tried to disable triple DES 168 via the “SCHANNEL\Ciphers\Triple DES 168/168 subkey” which is mentioned via Microsoft KB 245030 (or set by Nartac IIS Crypto version 1.6). In more details you set the following:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Ciphers\Triple DES 168/168]
“Enabled”=dword:00000000

After you implemented the one above (and perform a full OS reboot) a nMap (on the RDP port) shows the following:

Starting Nmap 6.49BETA4 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2015-09-28 03:11 Pacific Daylight Time
Nmap scan report for 192.168.58.130
Host is up (0.00s latency).
PORT     STATE SERVICE
3389/tcp open  ms-wbt-server
| ssl-enum-ciphers:
|   TLSv1.0:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.1:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.2:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|_  least strength: C
MAC Address: 00:0C:29:FB:83:9A (VMware)

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 14.91 seconds

If you perform the same on Windows 2012 R2 (RDP port) you see:

Starting Nmap 6.49BETA4 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2015-09-28 04:08 Pacific Daylight Time
Nmap scan report for 192.168.58.128
Host is up (0.00s latency).
PORT     STATE SERVICE
3389/tcp open  ms-wbt-server
| ssl-enum-ciphers:
|   TLSv1.0:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.1:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.2:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (dh 128) - B
|       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (dh 128) - C
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Key exchange parameters of lower strength than certificate key
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|_  least strength: C
MAC Address: 00:0C:29:36:42:27 (VMware)

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 14.91 seconds

If you delete the above reg key now and re-create the following now:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Ciphers\Triple DES 168]
“Enabled”=dword:00000000
Reboot the computer and run a new nMap scan you see now the following:

Windows 2008 R2:

Starting Nmap 6.49BETA4 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2015-09-28 03:15 Pacific Daylight Time
Nmap scan report for 192.168.58.130
Host is up (0.014s latency).
PORT     STATE SERVICE
3389/tcp open  ms-wbt-server
| ssl-enum-ciphers:
|   TLSv1.0:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.1:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.2:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|_  least strength: A
MAC Address: 00:0C:29:FB:83:9A (VMware)

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 14.91 seconds

Windows 2012 R2:

Starting Nmap 6.49BETA4 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2015-09-28 04:11 Pacific Daylight Time
Nmap scan report for 192.168.58.128
Host is up (0.013s latency).
PORT     STATE SERVICE
3389/tcp open  ms-wbt-server
| ssl-enum-ciphers:
|   TLSv1.0:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.1:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|   TLSv1.2:
|     ciphers:
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (dh 128) - B
|       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (dh 128) - C
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 256) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
|     compressors:
|       NULL
|     cipher preference: server
|     warnings:
|       Key exchange parameters of lower strength than certificate key
|       Weak certificate signature: SHA1
|_  least strength: C
MAC Address: 00:0C:29:36:42:27 (VMware)

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 14.99 seconds

Conclusion, it looks like there is a small bug in the Microsoft documentation and multiple other websites, documentations or blogs picked that up without checking that. So remove the “/168” part from your reg key, reboot the computer and triple DES is gone.

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